31 pages?
damn having a job really means i miss out on all the fun.

people still mad that dumb people are dumb, and some one took advantage of it. like every day both in and out of the game?

if so, i'm not sure why this has really got to 31 pages since there's not really much of a story here other than "dumb people be dumb, and people profit from it".

most enjoyment in this game is derived from ruining some one's day. the difference is, this guy could close TS whenever he wanted.

hell, it was easier for him to remove himself from this situation than it is to safely log out of eve.

then he should have removed himself from the situation

i understand your concern, but at all times the 'victim' had the ability to end his victimization (unlike real world victims who can't just shut off their attackers).

If he is somehow incapable of making the decision to shut it down, then he should not be on the internet at all IMO. At the end of the day, the individual is responsible for himself, no one else is.

Again: how much isk was scammed out of that guy?

a person thinks homosexuals are an abomination and shouldn't exist - a lot of people seem to feel the same.

a lot of people feeling the same doesn't make them correct, or worthy of acknowledgement.

then i suggest you stay away from irrelevant anecdotes and stick to the facts of the situation.

the fact of the situation is as follows; he was one keystroke from removing himself from the situation and turning a 1.5 hour teamspeak session in to a non-event.

The fact that not everyone reacts the same way does not legitimize a persons conduct.

Most people would run out of a buring house, the fact that one guy would not don't make that the smart thing to do.

Erotica1s only responsibility was to follow the TOS and EULA as best he could, he held ZERO responsibility for the actions of the guy being scammed. The guy being scammed bore the only responsibility to protect himself from in game loss and teamspeak humiliation. He had full control over his computer and his actions and failed to respond in a proper way. Even his own allaince mates (seen in this thread) are saying that.

He also gave verbal consent for the entire thing. It can be heard on the recording.

Read you, daft cow.

Notice the phrase "its not illegal".
So yes, it is ok in real life.



No, I said I would applaud and laugh if someone did.
I did not say I wanted someone to do it.

Half and hour of that was the "victim" ranting and raving at them. He could have left at any time and there is a long history of getting people to sing in this game.

Well, having someone spaz out on teamspeak can be pretty funny, this is not the first of such recordings either, its absolutely nothing new, and usually stuff like this is laughed at.

A better question is, if this guy was in such stress over this teamspeak session, why didnt he just leave? I mean, if someone was annoying me on teamspeak, Id just leave, hell, you can even just mute/ignore them.

Bad behavior all around, but nothing actionable.

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I also find the racism and threats from the victim to be as troubling, if not more troubling, than the scammer's sadism. Yes, people say things when they are at a breaking point, but it doesn't excuse the blatant racism in the least.
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I had several people send me death threats for over a week when we ran the mining interdictions. There is never an excuse for unironic racism or death threats over a game.

Forcing CCP to act is a worthy goal, but I am more interested in quality than in speed. A quick banhammer will only fuel the apologists and rules lawyers who always demand to know exactly where a line is drawn. Just get it right, CCP, and protect yourselves from the association--whether or not you desire a particular outcome for this situation.

As harsh as it may sound, scamming is a part of Eve.

However, the major problem I have is where they make fun of his speech impediment. There is no acceptable excuse CCP can give, that should allow this behavior.

This is bullying.

CCP should not tolerate this, and I'm quiet disappointed the permanent bans haven't already been handed out.

I do, on the other hand, appreciate the dangers of adhocracy. While I would prefer to see CCP return the subscription fees of the offenders, and refuse to accept their money in the future, a better solution might be to simply set their status to GÇ£blockedGÇ¥ for all players not on their contacts lists. That would go for every chat channel that currently exists, or is later created. I donGÇÖt know if thatGÇÖs possible, but itGÇÖs the bare minimum response I hope to see from CCP.

He could have left at any time.

not in the slightest.
there's a vast difference between he can't escape, and he didn't want to escape.

the difference is irrelevant, he could have still left whenever the hell he pleased.

and people are casually ignoring that he's a racist that threatens people, they still haven't accepted that fact.

Insta-ban if he does. 100% certain.

Thats why he doesn't. But don't worry. This will gain enough momentum for action to be taken, either way.

Yet at the same time you demand the heads of the people who were asking him to sing for them.